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However, many people have exposed not being able to read the few pages, or even take a look before forming their opinion of a text they have never read. the findings are very ingenious and admirable, and quite surprising considering the apparent lack of interest of the Egyptians in this sort of astronomy ... - (Years ago I did an English translation - not published so far - of E. - I find that there is really a solar eclipse at a time that is very close to the one you state, but provided the time is ephemeris time. The Egyptians routinely expressed abstract ideas using pictures.
I have visited and photographed the Senmut tomb several times, and I find it quite fascinating. - Actually there is no safe way of extrapolating that far back in time but the correction (ephemeris time to universal time) would be accurate to within /- some hours ...". I am not sure there would be enough information given on the ceilings to identify a date if this is what the ceilings represent ..." "... There are messages hidden in every day Egyptian art by incorporating hieroglyphs into designs. Figures that have been taken to be constellations may just as likely represent abstract ideas.
ISSN 0008-8984 Editorial staff: [email protected] The Oldest Known Scientific Report The well-known Egyptian star map in question was carried out by Senmut who was the vizier to Queen Hatshepsut and also the calendar registrar of Egypt during a very interesting period of the 18th dynasty (16th-15th century BCE).
The recently decoded material can be objectively proven, based on modern astronomical calculations, to depict important astronomical circumstances.
These can never match the huge computer astronomy programs (important extra details) at the scientific institutions. in the new (fresh) issue of the journal of the history of science Centaurus 2000 vol. - (My research shows two possible dates for the [such kind of] solar eclipse, one retro-calculation with "Voyager" software came up with June 1, 1478 BC; the other, Julian date August 23, 1463BC) ...". Ancient Star Charts: The word "star" comes from the Greek term meaning heavenly body; - Bronze Age 'star chart' found March 2nd ; - Lascaux, France, 17,000 years ago: in star pictures of the Pleiades; - Prehistoric Star Maps Identified In France And Spain; - New Discovery in Ancient Egyptian Star Map ( ...". I have read your article "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map" with great interest.
All this is being taken care of in the treatise and carefully emphasized in the text. 42 pp 159-179, publishing the paper of Ove von Spaeth, 'Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map' ...". this important and fascinating paper - many congratulations on the research ..it is a major advance. I agree with your conclusions as to the general positions in the sky of the planets, the sun and the moon and the general dating of the configuration.
The re-evaluation of this and of subsequent maps, together with the data contained therein, gives birth to new perspectives.
- the paper does not mention anything about a total eclipse; and it is a fact that also annular eclipses were recorded by the ancients. per tale motivo dedicher almeno una pagina a links connessi in qualche modo con questo tema. This star-map actually describes a planetary conjunction in which the planet position is defined to a certain sector of the sky, plus a solar eclipse. The data concerned have been revealed by a thorough examination of one of the most unique Egyptian celestial decoration ...". Although general merit can be given to his [Ov S's] interpretation of the ceiling (of which he received widespread accolades from numerous and notable peers), there are concerns about the dataset he used ... but we can be sure such an eclipse could have been an early root from which later generations of priests drew reverence ...". Avry Wilson, The Official Graham Hancock Website: Discussion Forum, The Mysteries - The 64th Controversy VI, - ( [email protected]) & (autumn 2003) & post 153270: I have read with interest information provided on your website concerning the research of the Senmut star-map and its probable relation to Moses.
a close encounter of the planets) in which a unique pattern of the positions of the planets concentrated within a defined sector of the sky, it therefore contains information unmistakably related to a fixed point of time.
It has been possible to calculate this as May 1534 BC, (ed.: any doubts about the accuracy of the calculations?
- moreover, it is never stated that the row of planets could be seen at the same time as the eclipse - in fact, besides the differences of day and night observations, the map might show that some days had past after the eclipse. - quotation from Russian text translates:) Chronology problem - solution of the Egyptian celestial picture is not as by Fomenko. Mantido por Elio Jucci, Universit degli Studi di Pavia, Itlia. As such, precise astronomical calculation can date this map to the date, May, 1534 BCE (Ove von Spaeth, "Dating the Oldest Egyptian Star Map", International Journal of the History of Science, Centaurus, vol 42:3 (2000):159-179) ...". Remarks about the appearance of Mars in the tomb of Senenmut in western Thebes - (concerning:) An article recently published in this journal by Ove von Spaeth (2000) - ..based on a wrong assumption ...". The author, just as Fomenko, approaches the task in terms of farfetched conceptions of Egyptian astronomical symbolism, as well as the author entertains his own particular ideas about "correct chronology". a pleasure to announce that the work on Dating The Oldest Egyptian Star Map has just been published by Anistoriton - providing the readers of this Journal a selection of the news of the article published in the electronic version (Vol. Congratulations and thank you for the permission ...". STAR-MAP: New orientating discoveries in the world's oldest star map in a 3500 years old Egyptian tomb - presented through historian Ove von Spaeth's research - revealing informative and precise astronomical data of great importance to ancient Egyptian chronology. You suggest the map describes a real astronomical observation ........
- it is hardly possible on a pc or laptop to obtain a result with the necessary precision by using normal computer star programs. - We remind you that I tried to find better interpretations concerning the celestial picture, and such a solution was rapidly found... Besides, it shows too that the author lies concerning the astronomical calculations of the planets..." - (In addition, Gusjev quotes hearsay from Conman and van Gent; cf. As I am writing a book on the chronology of Jesus Christ, my interest was drawn to what seems a conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in the very year that an eclipse of the sun occurred over Egypt.
The presented interpretation seems being confirmed with great precision by modern astronomical methods.